There’s too much to talk about and not enough time.

We’ve barely touched on the ultra-running hobby (“I didn't start running until much later in life. It was probably in my late 30s, when I first just went out for a random run. I had a couple of rescue dogs, and I thought, ‘why not do this?’ It was a bit of a Forrest Gump thing. And then I just kept going…” or the yoga teacher training. (“I lived in the UK at the time. We had a very nice village, but yoga classes were about £30 pounds per class, which is just not accessible, and I loved the whole mental balance of yoga, so I became a yoga teacher and taught for free in my community…”)

But some final thoughts on an extraordinary career that has taken her from council estate to oil rigs, billions in procurement spend management to senior technology leadership roles; much of it juggling life as a single mum. What does she think she brings to the role as a CIO as a result?

She pauses: “When I was in my early stages trying to make it as a young female engineer [harnessing the best out of people was not something I was always] great at. But then as I matured into leadership positions, I really found that niche around ‘how do I find the best people?’ ‘How do I help them be the best versions of themselves?’ And I think that's really transferable, whether you work in any sector, or whether you have a pure computer science background or you're an engineer. I think that ability to get the best out of people is what leadership is really all about.”

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